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If you could change one rule at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, what would it be?
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Enrollment
796
Elementary
DISTRICT 680 · STATE 443
SCHOOL COMMUNITY·WILLIAM FLOYD UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT·NCES 361869004677
JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
230 VAN BUREN ST, SHIRLEY, NY 11967 · (631) 874-1295 · Suffolk County
GRADES KG–05ELEMENTARY21-SUBURBTITLE IREGULAR SCHOOL796 STUDENTS
C-
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Scored higher than 17% of New York public elementary schools
- C-Test scores Share of students meeting the state standard in reading, math, and other tested subjects, 2023-24 and 2024-25.
- DBeats expectations How far test scores land above or below what the share of low-income students predicts for a school in this state.
- ·Three-year trend Not available for this school, so the grade uses the other parts.
Grades compare a school only with schools in the same state, because every state gives its own test. How grades work · Top-graded New York public elementary schools
Student : Teacher
13.2:1
60 FTE teachers
DISTRICT 12.8:1 · STATE 12.8:1
Free / Reduced Lunch
53%
421 students
DISTRICT 52% · STATE 58%
Community
1
0 members
Enrollment and student:teacher ratio compared against other elementary schools. Free/Reduced Lunch and demographics compared against all schools.
Enrollment by grade, 2024-25
| Grade | Students | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Kindergarten | 131 | 16% |
| Grade 1 | 131 | 16% |
| Grade 2 | 136 | 17% |
| Grade 3 | 106 | 13% |
| Grade 4 | 129 | 16% |
| Grade 5 | 148 | 19% |
| Ungraded | 15 | 2% |
This year's kindergarten class (131) is 11% smaller than its 5th grade class (148).
Student demographics
66%Diversity index
The chance that two students picked at random belong to different racial or ethnic groups.
DISTRICT 65% · STATE 72% · US 70%
Student head counts by race/ethnicity from federal NCES enrollment data. District, state, and US figures are each group's share of all public school students in that area (US excludes territories). Very small groups may be suppressed in the source, so categories do not always sum exactly to total enrollment.
Gender split
Test scores
NYS Assessments 2024-25 . % Proficient (Level 3 + Level 4)English Language Arts
45.0%
NY avg 58.3% . +19.0pp since 2023
Math
51.0%
NY avg 57.4% . +15.0pp since 2023
What this means: On the NYS Assessments, New York's statewide test, about 45 of every 100 students at this school read and write at grade level and about 51 of 100 do math at grade level. Across all New York schools, those numbers are about 58 and 57. Reading and writing scores are up about 19 points since 2023, while math scores are up about 15 points.
NYS Assessments results by year
| School year | English Language Arts | Math |
|---|---|---|
| 2024-25 | 45.0% | 51.0% |
| 2023-24 | 26.0% | 36.0% |
% Proficient (Level 3 + Level 4), all students and all tested grades.
Source: NYS Assessments. All students, all grades. See all years and grades →
BeatsExpectations
Demographically-adjusted score · methodologyTier
UNDERPERFORMING
Bottom 10% of NY schools after controlling for student poverty
Actual proficiency
36.4%
composite math + reading, all grades
Predicted
55.5%
based on NY schools with similar FRL share
Beats by
-19.1pp
below demographic expectation
What this means: About 36% of students here test proficient in math and reading, below the roughly 56% typical for New York schools with a similar share of low-income students. BeatsExpectations compares each school with others at the same poverty level, not by raw scores, so a school lands here when its results trail those comparable schools, which is not the same as having low scores. A higher-scoring school can still fall in this tier if similar schools score higher still.
BeatsExpectations runs a per-state regression of proficiency on free/reduced-lunch share, then scores each school by residual. How this is calculated →
Schools most like JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL's state test result (36.4% proficient) is higher than 1 of the 5 schools below with a result.
| School | Students | Low-income | Proficient |
|---|---|---|---|
| JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL this school | 796 | 52.9% | 36.4% |
| TANGIER SMITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MASTIC BEACH | 770 | 51.9% | 42.4% |
| MORICHES ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MORICHES | 861 | 49.1% | 45.6% |
| NATHANIEL WOODHULL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHIRLEY | 812 | 46.4% | 36.9% |
| GARDINER MANOR SCHOOL BAY SHORE | 739 | 44.5% | 34.9% |
| WILLIAM FLOYD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHIRLEY | 757 | 46.2% | 42.7% |
Matched among New York elementary schools on enrollment, the share of students from low-income families (eligible for free or reduced-price lunch), and racial and ethnic makeup. Proficient is the average share of students meeting the state standard across all of the school's state tests in 2023-24 and 2024-25, the same combined score our test-score rankings use. Online schools and schools serving specialized populations are not matched.
Where JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ranks
Among elementary schools| Measure | This school | In New York | In Suffolk County |
|---|---|---|---|
| State test proficiency ranked highest first | 36.4% | #1,774 of 2,335 | #135 of 168 |
| Math proficiency ranked highest first | 51.0% | #1,414 of 2,342 ▲ 401 | #100 of 169 ▲ 40 |
| Reading proficiency ranked highest first | 45.0% | #1,559 of 2,343 ▲ 401 | #103 of 169 ▲ 39 |
| Enrollment ranked largest first | 796 | #155 of 2,585 | #11 of 209 |
| Students per teacher ranked fewest first | 13.2:1 | #1,681 of 2,338 | #149 of 196 |
| Diversity index ranked most diverse first | 65.8% | #425 of 2,388 | #23 of 197 |
| Free and reduced lunch ranked highest share first | 52.9% | #1,323 of 2,534 | #32 of 200 |
| Enrollment change since 2017-18 ranked steepest decline first | -8.1% | #1,274 of 1,757 | #83 of 137 |
Ranked against other public elementary schools. Online schools are left out of every list, and test-score lists leave out schools that serve specialized populations. Each rank links to the full list. Arrows under a test-score rank show places moved since the prior test year, among schools tested both years.
4-year change
SY 2020-21 vs SY 2024-25Enrollment
796
-1 (0%) vs 2020
-15% since 1990-91, when it was 936
Student : Teacher
13.2:1
was 12.3:1
Source: NCES Common Core of Data
Enrollment and staffing by year
| School year | Students | Teachers (FTE) | Students per teacher | Free and reduced lunch |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024-25 | 796 | 60.3 | 13.2:1 | 53% (421) |
| 2023-24 | 784 | 62.2 | 12.6:1 | 61% (475) |
| 2022-23 | 798 | 60.6 | 13.2:1 | 58% (462) |
| 2020-21 | 797 | 65 | 12.3:1 | 58% (463) |
| 2017-18 | 866 | 53 | 16.3:1 | 71% (616) |
| 2015-16 | 810 | 51 | 15.9:1 | 68% (554) |
| 2010-11 | 844 | 58 | 14.6:1 | 53% (445) |
| 2000-01 | 1,271 | 76 | 16.7:1 | 51% (646) |
| 1990-91 | 936 | 53 | 17.7:1 | N/A |
Source: NCES Common Core of Data. Rows are the federal collections on file for JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
About JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
The public elementary school JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is located in SHIRLEY, New York. It enrolled 796 students in kindergarten through 5 for the 2024-25 school year. Statewide, elementary schools in New York average about 443 students each.
WILLIAM FLOYD UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT counts 9,386 students in its 9 schools, and JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is one of them.
Hispanic students make up a majority at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, at 50%. Other students are 22% White, 19% Black, 5% multiracial, and 3% Asian. That is higher than the 23% Hispanic share among all Suffolk County residents. The school's diversity index is 66%, meaning two students picked at random have a 66% chance of belonging to different racial or ethnic groups.
Teachers at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL total 60.3 full-time equivalents, and the ratio is 13.2:1. For comparison, elementary schools in New York average 12.8:1. Federal records put free or reduced-price lunch eligibility at 53%. The gap from the 39% average for public schools in Suffolk County is 14 points.
The allk12 Grade for JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is C-. Compared with New York public elementary schools, the school scored higher than 17% on a mix of test scores, poverty-adjusted results, and recent trend.
Schools in New York with a similar free or reduced-price lunch share are predicted to post an average proficiency rate on state tests near 55.5%. JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL posts 36.4%, 19.1 points below that, which places it in the bottom 10% statewide on BeatsExpectations.
Census estimates describe Suffolk County this way: the median household income is $130,686, about 40% of adults have at least a bachelor's degree, and the poverty rate is about 4%. In all, Suffolk County has 343 public schools and roughly 222,439 students.
NATHANIEL WOODHULL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is the closest public school, about 0.2 miles away in a straight line. Other public schools within five miles number at least 8. Among 8 nearby schools that report test results, JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ranks 8th on proficiency.
By NCES locale, the school is Suburb: Large, or in a suburban area outside a principal city, within an urbanized area with a population of 250,000 or more.
There was little change in enrollment from 2020-21 (797) to 2024-25 (796).
Families, students, and staff can use this page to discuss school safety, transportation, and start times at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. Alumni can share how the school prepared them.
Suffolk County at a glance
View full county profilePopulation
1,530,146
Census ACS
Median income
$130,686
Household, ACS
Bachelor's+
40%
Adults 25+
Poverty rate
4%
Below federal line
Schools in county
343
222,439 students
Quick facts
Related schools
Other schools in WILLIAM FLOYD UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT
- WILLIAM FLOYD HIGH SCHOOLHigh · 3,107 students
- WILLIAM FLOYD MIDDLE SCHOOLMiddle · 1,124 students
- WILLIAM PACA MIDDLE SCHOOLMiddle · 1,078 students
- MORICHES ELEMENTARY SCHOOLElementary · 861 students
- NATHANIEL WOODHULL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLElementary · 812 students
- TANGIER SMITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOLElementary · 770 students
Other schools in SHIRLEY
- NATHANIEL WOODHULL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLElementary · 812 students
- WILLIAM FLOYD ELEMENTARY SCHOOLElementary · 757 students
- WILLIAM FLOYD LEARNING CENTERElementary · 81 students
Nearby schools
- NATHANIEL WOODHULL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL0.2 mi · 812
- WILLIAM FLOYD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL0.2 mi · 757
- WILLIAM FLOYD LEARNING CENTER0.2 mi · 81
- WILLIAM FLOYD HIGH SCHOOL0.4 mi · 3,107
- WILLIAM PACA MIDDLE SCHOOL0.5 mi · 1,078
- TANGIER SMITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL0.7 mi · 770
Frequently asked questions
About JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOLHow large is JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?
JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL enrolls approximately 796 students in grades KG-05.
Is JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL an elementary, middle, or high school?
JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is an elementary school covering grades KG-05.
How many students per teacher at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?
Approximately 13.2:1 students per teacher at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
What is the racial breakdown of students at JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?
At JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, the student body is approximately 22% White, 50% Hispanic, 19% Black, 3% Asian, 5% Two or more.
Who oversees JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?
JOHN S HOBART ELEMENTARY SCHOOL is overseen by WILLIAM FLOYD UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT in Suffolk County.
Data sourceSchool profile facts are sourced from the NCES. Community content is posted by allk12 members.